Farman HF.30 (English Wikipedia)

Analysis of information sources in references of the Wikipedia article "Farman HF.30" in English language version.

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  • The list included the Anatra D, Lebed XII, Voisin-Ivanov and F.27 (www.airwar.ru)
  • For the test, see here Archived 2012-09-12 at the Wayback Machine; for the date of Anatra DS production, see here.
  • The figure of 400 HF.30s at Dux appears to originate with Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction (online excerpt). The orders for the Lebed XII and Anatra D were reduced from 400 or more to a little over 200 of each (online source; online source)
  • Shavrov claims the Voisin V was only produced in limited quantities by Dux (online excerpt), but to this it seems there should be added at the very least a completed order for 100 Voisin-Ivanovs from Anatra (online source); one website gives a figure of 300-350 planes from Dux, plus 160 from other sources (online source) and 150 Voisin-Ivanovs from Anatra (online source).

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  • Parmentier, Bruno (2001-03-24). "Farman HF-30". aviafrance.com (in French). Paris. Retrieved 22 December 2018.

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  • Kislyakov and V. Babich, "History of Air-to-Air Combat Reviewed", p. 51, document a duel where an unarmed HF.30 was attacked by a Fokker Eindecker, manoeuvred against the German plane and threatened a ramming attack, and eventually escaped with a forced landing; some sources suggest that the aces Ivan Orlov and Konstantin Vakulovsky won early aerial victories in Farman type planes (online source), but these may have been older F.20 or F.22 versions, and Orlov initially flew as a volunteer in his own MF.7 (V. Kulnikov, Russian Aces of World War 1, Aircraft of the Aces 111 (New York: Osprey Publishing, 2013), "Farman" p. 93). Nonetheless, references to occasional aerial victories by the similar but lower-performance F.22 and F.27 show that the HF.30 ought to have been capable of success. During the Russian Civil War, a "White" Lebed XII is said to have crashed while being pursued by an aggressive "Red" HF.30.
  • Kulnikov, Russian Aces, p. 48

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  • Yu. Kislyakov and V. Babich, "History of Air-to-Air Combat Reviewed", originally published in Aviatsiya i kosmonavtika, 1986, transl. in: USSR Report: Military Affairs Aviation and Cosmonautics No 1, January 1986 (US Foreign Broadcast Information Service). pp. 34-52 at p. 51 (PDF).
  • Capt. G.L. Stamper, Jr., USAF, "The Sikorsky S-16 and Russian Aviation During the Great War" (Unpublished MA Thesis, University of Georgia, 1995), pp. 13, 21-22 (online PDF).

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  • The 150hp Salmson P9 engine is cited as having been used previously on the F.27, a large late variant of the F.20, both online and in Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction (online excerpt); it is not listed in O. Thetford, British Naval Aircraft Since 1912, J.M. Bruce, The Aeroplanes of the Royal Flying Corps: Military Wing (London: Putnamm 1992), pp. 229-238, but is in J.J. Davilla and A.M. Soltan, French Aircraft of the First World War (Boulder, CA: Flying Machines Press), performance table.
  • The identification of the M.16 as a Farman 30 variant is from T. Heinonen, Thulinista Hornetiin – 75 vuotta Suomen ilmavoimien lentokoneita (Tikkakoski: Central Finland Aviation Museum, 1992), p. 38. The direct debt is not mentioned in the descriptions excerpted at flyingmachines.ru.
  • Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction, pp. 145-6 (online excerpt for the HF.15; citations in English: MF.11 Archived 2005-09-10 at the Wayback Machine, HF.13 Archived 2016-03-03 at the Wayback Machine).
  • Contrast Kislyakov and V. Babich, "History of Air-to-Air Combat Reviewed", p. 51 and Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction, (online excerpt). One online source states that the type was designed in response to a specific Russian request, but adopted by the Aéronautique Militaire on the Western Front in December 1915 and achieved widespread deployment on the Eastern Front in late 1916.
  • H.J. Nowarra and G.R. Duval, Russian Civil and Military Aircraft, 1884-1969 (London: Fountain Press Ltd., 1971), p. 49, indicates that HF.30s were built at Lebed and the Shchetinin seaplane factory, both in Petrograd, at Mosca as well as Dux in Moscow, and at Anatra in Odessa; Shchetinin certainly built the M-16 Zimnyak, but while Anatra received a copy of the plans, their actual involvement in construction has been questioned; they had built something approaching 300 planes using older Farman type designs, continuing to construct the F.20 and F.22 designs well after they had become militarily obsolete (online source); Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction mentions that these were being used as trainers (online excerpts: F.20 F.22). A new factory at Berdyansk began to build the HF.30 in 1917 (online source).
  • The figure of 400 HF.30s at Dux appears to originate with Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction (online excerpt). The orders for the Lebed XII and Anatra D were reduced from 400 or more to a little over 200 of each (online source; online source)
  • Shavrov claims the Voisin V was only produced in limited quantities by Dux (online excerpt), but to this it seems there should be added at the very least a completed order for 100 Voisin-Ivanovs from Anatra (online source); one website gives a figure of 300-350 planes from Dux, plus 160 from other sources (online source) and 150 Voisin-Ivanovs from Anatra (online source).
  • Online sources cite around 40 of the F.27 and 20 of the F.40.
  • There are some minor inconsistencies in the HF.30's specifications in published sources, mostly due to confusion between the HF.30 and the F.30, two completely different aircraft; the following figures seem to be approximately correct for typical Dux Factory aircraft.Sources are Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction (online excerpt), Andersson, Soviet Aircraft and Aviation, p. 123, Davilla and Soltan, French Aircraft of the First World War and Liron, Les Avions Farman.

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  • Kislyakov and V. Babich, "History of Air-to-Air Combat Reviewed", p. 51, document a duel where an unarmed HF.30 was attacked by a Fokker Eindecker, manoeuvred against the German plane and threatened a ramming attack, and eventually escaped with a forced landing; some sources suggest that the aces Ivan Orlov and Konstantin Vakulovsky won early aerial victories in Farman type planes (online source), but these may have been older F.20 or F.22 versions, and Orlov initially flew as a volunteer in his own MF.7 (V. Kulnikov, Russian Aces of World War 1, Aircraft of the Aces 111 (New York: Osprey Publishing, 2013), "Farman" p. 93). Nonetheless, references to occasional aerial victories by the similar but lower-performance F.22 and F.27 show that the HF.30 ought to have been capable of success. During the Russian Civil War, a "White" Lebed XII is said to have crashed while being pursued by an aggressive "Red" HF.30.

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  • Contrast Kislyakov and V. Babich, "History of Air-to-Air Combat Reviewed", p. 51 and Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction, (online excerpt). One online source states that the type was designed in response to a specific Russian request, but adopted by the Aéronautique Militaire on the Western Front in December 1915 and achieved widespread deployment on the Eastern Front in late 1916.
  • H.J. Nowarra and G.R. Duval, Russian Civil and Military Aircraft, 1884-1969 (London: Fountain Press Ltd., 1971), p. 49, indicates that HF.30s were built at Lebed and the Shchetinin seaplane factory, both in Petrograd, at Mosca as well as Dux in Moscow, and at Anatra in Odessa; Shchetinin certainly built the M-16 Zimnyak, but while Anatra received a copy of the plans, their actual involvement in construction has been questioned; they had built something approaching 300 planes using older Farman type designs, continuing to construct the F.20 and F.22 designs well after they had become militarily obsolete (online source); Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction mentions that these were being used as trainers (online excerpts: F.20 F.22). A new factory at Berdyansk began to build the HF.30 in 1917 (online source).
  • Shavrov claims the Voisin V was only produced in limited quantities by Dux (online excerpt), but to this it seems there should be added at the very least a completed order for 100 Voisin-Ivanovs from Anatra (online source); one website gives a figure of 300-350 planes from Dux, plus 160 from other sources (online source) and 150 Voisin-Ivanovs from Anatra (online source).
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  • Shavrov, History of Aircraft Construction, L. Andersson, Soviet Aircraft and Aviation 1917-1941 (Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 1994), p. 123, J.J. Davilla and A.M. Soltan, French Aircraft of the First World War (Mountain View, CA: Flying Machines Press, 1997); all of whom give a speed of 136 km/h among slightly varying figures that all appear to relate to the Dux Factory production; the 140 km/h version is cited by online sources while 155 km/h is quoted by J. Liron, Les Avions Farman, Docavia 21 (Clichy: Editions Lariviere, 1984), Shavrov also mentions a range of motors from 130hp to 175hp, the largest of which would probably produce a top speed above 140 km/h.).
  • Kislyakov and V. Babich, "History of Air-to-Air Combat Reviewed", p. 51, document a duel where an unarmed HF.30 was attacked by a Fokker Eindecker, manoeuvred against the German plane and threatened a ramming attack, and eventually escaped with a forced landing; some sources suggest that the aces Ivan Orlov and Konstantin Vakulovsky won early aerial victories in Farman type planes (online source), but these may have been older F.20 or F.22 versions, and Orlov initially flew as a volunteer in his own MF.7 (V. Kulnikov, Russian Aces of World War 1, Aircraft of the Aces 111 (New York: Osprey Publishing, 2013), "Farman" p. 93). Nonetheless, references to occasional aerial victories by the similar but lower-performance F.22 and F.27 show that the HF.30 ought to have been capable of success. During the Russian Civil War, a "White" Lebed XII is said to have crashed while being pursued by an aggressive "Red" HF.30.