Analysis of information sources in references of the Wikipedia article "Figure-eight loop" in English language version.
The reality of the so-called 'back-up knot'is that it is not necessary.
may seriously weaken the knot if you use the inside of the knot as a belay loop
Tying a double overhand or barrel knot in front of the figure 8 follow through does not alter the failure mechanism of the knot. It simply adds another step to an already secure knot.
When tied correctly, the knot is tight, with a 5- to 8-inch tail ... Tie the figure eight so that its loop is about the same diameter as your belay loop. The figure eight knot does not require a backup knot.
make certain you leave a long tail, and finish this with a Double Fisherman's
A stopper knot must be added when the threaded figure eight loop is used to tie on a line.
The figure eight follow-through does not require a backup ... but it can't hurt to use one
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You do not need a backup knot behind a figure eight tie-in knot nor should students be taught that 'messy' knots are weaker than 'correct' knots.
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If correctly tied, dressed, and set then it does not need an additional stopper knot to secure the tail. ... I would recommend allowing a tail of 100mm.
Make sure your knot is well tied, tight and has a stopper knot. Adding a stopper knot adds another link to the safety chain.
a situation to be aware of is when the climber belays off the rope loop rather than the harness belay loop
You do not need a backup knot behind a figure eight tie-in knot nor should students be taught that 'messy' knots are weaker than 'correct' knots.
For instance, the overhand knot can be used to secure rope ends after ... a rewoven figure eight (fig. 9-4c). ... The rewoven figure eight is finished off by tying an overhand knot in the loose end of the rope.
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