Grimal, pp. 271, 549, 552–556; Collard and Cropp 2008b, pp. 79–80; Hard, p. 508; Tripp, s.v. Pleisthenes; Grimal, s.v. Pleisthenes; Parada, s.v. Plisthenes 1; Smith, s.v. Pleisthenes. For a discussion of the house of Tantalus see Gantz, pp. 531–556. For genealogies of the house of Tantalus see Hard, p. 708, Table 15; Grimal, p. 526.
Gantz, p. 552 describes him as the "most perplexing member of the house of Tantalus"; Sommerstein, p. 191 n. 327 says that "Pleisthenes is a shadowy name in the family to which Agamemnon belongs, found at several different points in its genealogy". Fowler also calls him "shadowy" (p. 435), and, while discussing the descendants of Pelops, says: "Genealogically, matters are complicated by the unknown position of the baffling Pleisthenes" (p. 439). See also Hard, p. 355 ("obscure"), p. 508 ("shadowy"), Collard and Cropp 2008b, p. 79 ("obscure"). Tripp, s.v. Pleisthenes, says that the conflicting versions regarding the father of Agamemnon and Menelaus "seemed to have confused ancient writers".
Gantz, p. 552; Armstrong, p. 12, with n. 39. Although Atreides, the standard Homeric epithet for Agamemnon or Menelaus, normally understood to mean "son of Atreus", can simply mean "descendant of Atreus", in some places Homer specifically refers to Agamemnon or Menelaus as a son of Atreus ("Ἀτρέος υἱέ") e.g. Iliad11.131, Odyssey4.462, see also Iliad2.104 ff..
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Grimal, pp. 271, 549, 552–556; Collard and Cropp 2008b, pp. 79–80; Hard, p. 508; Tripp, s.v. Pleisthenes; Grimal, s.v. Pleisthenes; Parada, s.v. Plisthenes 1; Smith, s.v. Pleisthenes. For a discussion of the house of Tantalus see Gantz, pp. 531–556. For genealogies of the house of Tantalus see Hard, p. 708, Table 15; Grimal, p. 526.
Gantz, p. 552 describes him as the "most perplexing member of the house of Tantalus"; Sommerstein, p. 191 n. 327 says that "Pleisthenes is a shadowy name in the family to which Agamemnon belongs, found at several different points in its genealogy". Fowler also calls him "shadowy" (p. 435), and, while discussing the descendants of Pelops, says: "Genealogically, matters are complicated by the unknown position of the baffling Pleisthenes" (p. 439). See also Hard, p. 355 ("obscure"), p. 508 ("shadowy"), Collard and Cropp 2008b, p. 79 ("obscure"). Tripp, s.v. Pleisthenes, says that the conflicting versions regarding the father of Agamemnon and Menelaus "seemed to have confused ancient writers".
This is according to a Cypria fragment, see Gantz, pp. 322 (which says that "the implication of our scholiast source [for this fragment] is that this child was in lieu of Nikostratos"), 572 (taken to Cypris), 573 (which says this Pleisthenes "seems nowhere else mentioned"); Collar and Cropp 2008b, p. 79 n. 1.
Gantz, p. 554. Both Weir Smyth, and Sommerstein in their notes to Agamemnon 1569, suggest that Pleisthenidae is being used here as a synonym of Atreidae.
For a discussion and the surviving fragments of the play see Cropp 2008b, pp. 79–87.
Gantz, p. 555; Collard and Cropp 2008b, p. 80; Grimal, s.v. Pleisthenes.
Gantz, pp. 544, 554; Collard and Cropp 2008b, p. 79 n. 1; Grimal s.v. Pleisthenes.
Grimal, pp. 271, 549, 552–556; Collard and Cropp 2008b, pp. 79–80; Hard, p. 508; Tripp, s.v. Pleisthenes; Grimal, s.v. Pleisthenes; Parada, s.v. Plisthenes 1; Smith, s.v. Pleisthenes. For a discussion of the house of Tantalus see Gantz, pp. 531–556. For genealogies of the house of Tantalus see Hard, p. 708, Table 15; Grimal, p. 526.
Gantz, p. 552; Armstrong, p. 12, with n. 39. Although Atreides, the standard Homeric epithet for Agamemnon or Menelaus, normally understood to mean "son of Atreus", can simply mean "descendant of Atreus", in some places Homer specifically refers to Agamemnon or Menelaus as a son of Atreus ("Ἀτρέος υἱέ") e.g. Iliad11.131, Odyssey4.462, see also Iliad2.104 ff..
Gantz, p. 554. Both Weir Smyth, and Sommerstein in their notes to Agamemnon 1569, suggest that Pleisthenidae is being used here as a synonym of Atreidae.
Gantz, p. 552; Armstrong, p. 12, with n. 39. Although Atreides, the standard Homeric epithet for Agamemnon or Menelaus, normally understood to mean "son of Atreus", can simply mean "descendant of Atreus", in some places Homer specifically refers to Agamemnon or Menelaus as a son of Atreus ("Ἀτρέος υἱέ") e.g. Iliad11.131, Odyssey4.462, see also Iliad2.104 ff..
